Matthew 1:23 - Emmanuel, God with us

Matthew 1:23 (KJV)  Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Surely God is with us, not against us. And he has shown us this by bringing forth his messiah. Matthew applies this Isaiah prophecy to Jesus which was originally talking of a child contemporary with Isaiah.

If trinitarians are going to insist having a name that means God with us assigns literal deity then do they also think the original Emmanuel in the Isaiah prophecy is God almighty? Of course not.

Many hebrew names incorporate God and his attributes. "Isaiah" denotes the salvation of Yahweh; "Jeremiah," the exaltation or grandeur of Yahweh, each compounded of two words, in which the name Yahweh constitutes a part. Thus, also in "Elijah," the two names of God are combined, and it means literally, "God the Yahweh." Also "Eliab," God my father; "Eliada," knowledge of God; "Eliakim," the resurrection of God; "Elihu," he is my God; "Elisha," salvation of God.

Col 2:9 - all the fulness of deity

 Col 2:9 (NIV) For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form

Trinitarians sometimes bring up this verse as evidence that Jesus is God, but what does the verse actually teach?

It seems quite clear that the deity, God almighty, is dwelling in the man Jesus. Which is a fundamental truth unitarians proudly uphold.

Jesus is the temple, and God dwells in him by his spirit.

The church, all true believers, are also the temple.

1 Corinthians 3:16-17 (KJV)  Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

Indeed, as partakers of the divine nature (2 Peter 1:4) we are filled with the fulness of God.

Ephesians 3:19 (KJV)  And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

So if Col 2:9 means Christ is God then so are we Christians. Of course..... it doesn't. Its talking about God's spirit taking up residence in believers so that we are one in spirit, as Jesus described in detail in John 17:21.

Revelation 1:17-18 (KJV) First and last

Revelation 1:17-18 (KJV) And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, "Fear not; I am the first and the last:
I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."

The speaker above is most certainly Jesus, as he was dead. It can't be God because he is inherently immortal and cannot die.

In Isaiah 44:6, that is God the Father speaking, who's name is Yahweh.

Yahweh is always just God the Father. He's the only true God.

The trinitarian claim is that both the Lord Jesus and God almighty Yahweh share titles.... therefore Jesus is Yahweh.

Alpha and omega.
Beginning and end.
First and last.

There is an explanation for these shared titles without violating the unitary monotheistic faith of Jesus and the apostles.

God the Father is the beginning and end of physical creation. He spoke the earth into existence and stretched forth the heavens alone. The title first and last connected with the flavour of physical creation can be garnered from verses such as...

Isaiah 48:12-13
Isaiah 41:4
Also in Isaiah 44:6 he has the same title first and last, and later in verse 24 he emphasises his sole role in creation again.

Jesus is the first and last, alpha and omega of the NEW creation. He's the firstborn of all creation, the beginning, firstborn out of the dead (Col 1:18)

Rev 3:14 says he's the beginning of the creation of God.... that's the new creation in Christ.

Jesus is also the end, because he has been ordained by God to judge the world on the last day, after which he will hand back the kingdom to the Father.

Acts 17:31 (KJV) Because he [GOD] hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

There seems to be some difficulty in the trinitarian claim.

If you are going to say that the shared titles means Jesus is the speaker in Isa 44:6, then who is that speaker in Isaiah exactly. Who is that Yahweh? If its the triune God then Jesus is not the triune God in the doctrine.

If its God the Father speaking in Isaiah, then Jesus is not the Father in the doctrine of the Trinity. So that makes no sense either.

And I don't think any trinitarian would say its just Jesus talking in Isaiah, as that speaker keeps talking about creating everything on his own, but the doctrine claims that God the Father created everything, through Jesus at the beginning. So that violates trinity doctrine too.

And if Jesus in Rev 1:17-18 is the same as the person (or thing?) speaking in Isaiah.... then can that speaker in Isaiah ever be dead as is stated in the Rev verse?

Who is that speaker in Isaiah 44:6 exactly? It seems the contradictions are insurmountable within trinity doctrine

Zechariah 2:9-1 - Yahweh sent me

Zechariah 2:9-11 (KJV) For, behold, I will shake mine hand upon them, and they shall be a spoil to their servants: and ye shall know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me.
Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion: for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of thee, saith the LORD.
And many nations shall be joined to the LORD in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me unto thee.

The problem with the trinitarian view of these verses is selective placement of speech marks to try and make it look like Yahweh [God the Father] is sending Yahweh [God the son].

Yahweh doesn't send Yahweh, because Yahweh is the personal name of one person.

The surrounding context makes it clear there is an angel speaking. Let's look at the NET version of verse 9 and how they place the speech marks.

NET Bible
"I am about to punish them in such a way," he says, "that they will be looted by their own slaves." Then you will know that the LORD who rules over all has sent me.

You can see that it is Yahweh speaking in the speech marks and somebody else speaking outside the marks, the angel who was sent by Yahweh. The angel of the Lord.

And again in verse 11. Same format. God in speech marks. Angel outside.

NET Bible
"Many nations will join themselves to the LORD on the day of salvation, and they will also be my people. Indeed, I will settle in the midst of you all." Then you will know that the LORD who rules over all has sent me to you.